4611 is a "road", more or less....Actually it wasn't too bad, but there are a few sections that have slumped - and there are the ever present HUGE potholes in it.

The trail is actually pretty good all the way down to the river now.  It isn't too bad on the other side either.  It is actually better now than I remember when Paul and I did the "death march" in 2008 - on that hike, we lost the trail for a while going up the other side.